Did Jesus really die on the cross? Good video discussion
I found this so interesting, I watched it twice.
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We all know how the power of persuasion can be. For some people, if they truly believe they are going to be healed, they may be. There have been a few documented cases, even recently, some football...
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A footballer huh . . . . well that doesn't surprise me. Bunch of emotional wet pussys, probably got healed by being offfered a new sponsorship. Now if it were a rugby player or some other PROPER...
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Yeah, I'm not in to football, so can't remember his name. But it was only a year or two ago that I read about it. I'm thinking it was a brain tumour or something, and he went to this healer, and the...
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I'm gonna go with a new sponorship deal - footballers are all the same . . . not that I'm judgemental or anything
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As for the loaves and fishes, I always thought that was simply that Jesus set an example and those that had, shared, as per the example of Jesus sharing. I can't watch this whole thing, dangit. It is...
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"Didn't Josephus refer to Jesus?" Fallgirl, yes the Jewish historian Josephus appears to yield the only historical reference to a man called Jesus who makes out that he was the messiah. It is called...
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Janet, you will be interested to know that the video suggests Jesus was taken to the east to be trained in the Buddhist doctrine from the age of 14 to 29. You know how Buddists search for the chosen...
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I have the book "The Works of FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS"; two volumes in one. "The Antiquities of the Jews" and "The Wars of the Jews". It looks like it really has been through the wars. I got it in a used...
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The problem is, Josephus wrote this decades after Jesus supposedly lived, thus he was not a contemporary and was simply going off the legends he heard. As well, the parts regarding Jesus' death are...
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Vancity, all the histories that I have read by scholars, including those who do not claim to be Christian, do accept Josephus as a valid historian. This is not to say that ALL history is exactly as...
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My point was that that he was not a contemporary of Jesus. He did not know him, he was merely repeating stories he heard.
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He was born in 37 and died in 100. He relates personal accounts if you read his writings. Jerusalem was destroyed around 70 so he witnessed those events.
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No one is questioning the merit of Josephus as a historian but interpolations (insertions) into his text are mischievous pieces of false information which rely on the strength of his authority to...
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If he wrote from stories he heard, you have to wonder how those stories originated. I believe Jesus did live on earth, and I believe the most sensible thing that could have occurred would be that he...
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Fallgirl, why is that more sensible than, it was simply made up. Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor, Latin lex parsimoniae) is a principle of parsimony, economy, or succinctness used in...
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Fallgirl we became JWs because we believed what we heard from them. It was BELIEF which got us into trouble. Why should we believe anything of which we have no evidence? Surely knowledge is preferable...
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I will look for that book in the library. But I think Jesus lived and was a teacher, but stories from old were then attached to him. It just seems odd to me that he could have had so many followers in...
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There were many followers of Zeus once upon a time as well.
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The Historicity of Jesus.For many Christians the idea that Jesus might not have lived, is dispelled by the simple expedient of tradition itself: that is, millions of people have believed in his...
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